Friday, March 6, 2009

Some Good Follow Up Questions for Dean Marcelle Holmes

Unfortunately, Dean Holmes has not yet responded to my email the other day.

1) Which explicit policy did Kyle and David violate? Where is it in the book of college policies?

2) What is the official policy regarding videotaping at a public event by people who did not organize the event? Where can we find it stated?

3) Why weren't they allowed to respond to the allegations against them

4) As Dean of Women, was there any conflict of interest that she was the grievance officer who looked into this case?

5) Do all of the videos by Pomona students on Facebook violate that video policy? Did they get permission to film those videos?

6) Is there any precedent for banishment being an appropriate response to this situation? Who else has been banned in recent years, and what were the offenses?

My Email Exchange with Dean of Women Marcelle Holmes

CJ's note: What follows are the emails between Dean Marcelle Holmes and me regarding the banning of Kyle Kinneberg and David Daleiden from Pomona College. I have bolded relevant sections, but the blue writing is her own. Apologies for the format, but I wanted to just copy and paste so I couldn't be accused of deleting anything.

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from
Charles Johnson
toMarcelle Holmes
dateWed, Mar 4, 2009 at 9:03 PM
subjectRequest for comment from the Claremont Independent
mailed-bystudents.claremontmckenna.edu

hide details Mar 4 (2 days ago)
Reply

Hi Dean Holmes,

The Claremont Independent is running a story on the banning of Claremont McKenna students, David Daleiden and Kyle Kinneberg, from your campus. Would you mind sitting down with me either tomorrow or Friday to talk about it?

Thank you,
Charles Johnson

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fromMarcelle Holmes
toCharles Johnson
dateThu, Mar 5, 2009 at 6:54 AM
subjectRe: Request for comment from the Claremont Independent
mailed-bypomona.edu

hide details Mar 5 (2 days ago)
Reply

Hello Charles. While I will not be able to schedule a meeting with you, you may send some questions via email.
Dean Holmes

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fromCharles Johnson
toMarcelle Holmes
dateThu, Mar 5, 2009 at 9:20 AM
subjectRe: Request for comment from the Claremont Independent
mailed-bystudents.claremontmckenna.edu

hide details Mar 5 (1 day ago)
Reply

Dear Dean Holmes,

May I ask why you would prefer not to be interviewed in person? It is standard practice for the Claremont Independent to interview people in person and to use email to follow up.

Thank you,
Charles

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fromMarcelle Holmes
toCharles Johnson
dateThu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:38 AM
subjectRE: Request for comment from the Claremont Independent
mailed-bypomona.edu

hide details Mar 5 (1 day ago)
Reply

Hello Charles-
I did an interview for your publication via e-mail last year and think this worked well. I look forward to reading your questions and will get back to you in a timely fashion.
Dean Holmes

Marcelle Holmes, Ph.D.
Associate Dean of Students/Dean of Women
and Assistant Professor of Psychology
Pomona College
Claremont, CA
marcelle.holmes@pomona.edu
909 607-2147

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fromCharles Johnson
toMarcelle Holmes
dateThu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:57 AM
subjectRe: Request for comment from the Claremont Independent
mailed-bystudents.claremontmckenna.edu

hide details Mar 5 (1 day ago)
Reply

Dear Dean Holmes,

Thank you for your response.

I have several questions, but the first one is can you point to the relevant section or sections of the student handbook that Kyle and David are alleged to have violated? I should have a follow up or two from there.

Thank you,
Charles

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fromMarcelle Holmes
toCharles Johnson
dateThu, Mar 5, 2009 at 5:19 PM
subjectFW: Request for comment from the Claremont Independent
mailed-bypomona.edu

hide details Mar 5 (1 day ago)
Reply

Dear Charles:
Please know that you have my permission to quote this statement. I am happy to clarify some issues for you and for your readers. Although I cannot talk about specific individuals due to privacy concerns , I can let you know about our general process and why an individual may be banned from Pomona. When an individual has received a ban order, he or she is often encouraged to speak directly to representatives of the College to discuss whatever is unclear. Individuals can be banned for a number of reasons, some of which may or may not involve violations of the student code. For example, individuals may be banned due to an altercation, due to disruptive behavior, or due to other violations. The issuance of a ban is related to the ability of a private college to restrict access to individuals if we feel that their presence was or could be disruptive to activities that take place on our campus or to members of our community. Thank you so much for the opportunity to share a perspective on the matter with you and with your readers. Best of luck to you with the publication of your article.
Dean Holmes
Marcelle Holmes, Ph.D.
Associate Dean of Students/Dean of Women
and Assistant Professor of Psychology
Pomona College
Claremont, CA
marcelle.holmes@pomona.edu
909 607-2147

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fromCharles Johnson
toMarcelle Holmes
dateThu, Mar 5, 2009 at 6:42 PM
subjectRe: FW: Request for comment from the Claremont Independent
mailed-bystudents.claremontmckenna.edu

hide details Mar 5 (1 day ago)
Reply

Thank you, Dean Holmes. Thank you for answering my questions via email. I have permission from both Kyle Kinneberg and David Daleiden to ask you any questions regarding to the letter that you sent to them yesterday.

Could you then name a single policy, from the handbook or elsewhere, that they violated? And if the reason for banning them was their alleged disruptive conduct, will you be initiating proceedings against any of the Pomona students who took place in the Karl Rove protests at Claremont McKenna earlier this year or the shouting down of Marvin Stewart at Pomona?

Thank you again,
Charles

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She hasn't replied since.