Thursday, December 10, 2009

Bond Rating Still Worse Than It Was

Claremont McKenna's downgraded bond rating mentioned in Inside Higher Education. Have a look, won't you to see how much more costly all of Gann's new spending will be.

25 comments:

Do Your Homework said...

God, Charles, at least look up what a bond rating IS before you attack CMC. Did you notice every upgrade listed in the article is STILL lower than CMC's rating?

http://www.bondsonline.com/asp/research/bondratings.asp

Anonymous said...

if you even knew what a bond rating meant for a college, you'd realize that this doesn't mean anything for cmc. you forget that you go to a college filled with econ-finance majors who actually know what they're talking about

Charles Johnson said...

I know what a bond rating is and yes, we've been downgraded. Not by much, but we aren't as high as we once were. Is it the end of the world? No. Should we watch it? Yes.

Anonymous said...

lol charles johnson is making a habit of getting owned when he opens his mouth about anything econ or finance.

Charles Johnson said...

How was I owned? CMC's bond rating was downgraded, was it not? What's so hard to understand?

Anonymous said...

It was downgraded in like January man... do you even know why it was downgraded (hint: it has something to do with our endowment)? It's really meaningless. When it comes to finance or economics, your writing is consistently very very weak.

Charles Johnson said...

I wrote about it at the time when it was downgraded. http://www.claremontconservative.com/2009_06_01_archive.html.

I don't ever write on finance and very rarely write on econ! Read the blog more before you reveal your ignorance.

Anonymous said...

"Have a look, won't you to see how much more costly all of Gann's new spending will be."

How is a bond downgrade from six months ago costly? And how is that even related to her spending? Do you have any idea what causes a bond downgrade? Talk about ignorance...

Charles Johnson said...

Assuming she borrows any money. The reason our bond was downgraded was due to investments in the endowment. Gann probably tried to turbo charge the investing in order to cover some of the extravagant things that Pam Gann wanted to buy, which was why we lost a lot more in our endowment than Pomona did.

Anonymous said...

Lol basically charles is trying to say that Pam Gann is a 'big government tax and spend liberal'. He will use any facts, however unrelated, to support his argument.
He needs a lesson in "correlation doesnt imply causation"

Charles Johnson said...

Um.. no. That wasn't the argument at all. Can you read? I was making an argument related to her investment strategy based upon the direction she wants to take the school.

Anonymous said...

Have a look, won't you to see how much more costly all of Gann's new spending will be"

Umm...is it just me or is the world 'investment' not present here?

SPENDING has nothing to do with a BOND RATING. Bond rating is a judgement on the value of the assets.

For the sake of argument, let's say that you are questioning her "investment strategy". Tell me one college whose endowment didn't fall. For your own reputation, shut your trap.

Charles Johnson said...

Some fell more than others. It has to do with conservative budgeting or not conservative budgeting. The two issues are connected.

Anonymous said...

Gann's spending to investment strategy (what investment strategy?) to 'conservative budgeting or not conservative budgeting.'

are you confused or stupid, or both?

And anonymous 3 is right. Stick to character assassinations. Econ is way above your league.

TheOtherCharlesJohnson said...

also, budgeting, conservative or not conservative, has nothing to do with investing for an endowment portfolio.

Do you think Gann makes the investment decisions? Don't you realize that that would be a job of full time investment analysts?

There is a difference between budgeting for day to day expenses of the college, and money going toward large-long term investments!

Holy shit, it looks like this guy needs to take econ 50 again!

Mr. IQ said...

"I don't ever write on finance and very rarely write on econ"

Looks like someone is playing the ignorance card to defend his obvious lack of grey cells.

Charles Johnson said...

The college is operating under structural deficits, which are directly related to how much money the college is spending. Rather than trim some of the fat from that budget, Gann continues to spend. Hence the reason we're soon to have Summer school at this college. They need the money.

The decline in the endowment is related to our bond ratings, just as it was when Dartmouth was downgraded. (http://chronicle.com/article/Dartmouth-College-Its-Bond/47641)

As for the IQ stuff, I'm not bragging. It's truth in advertising. You can see my birth certificate, too, if you want.

Anonymous said...

"The college is operating under structural deficits, which are directly related to how much money the college is spending. Rather than trim some of the fat from that budget, Gann continues to spend. "

Arrr, that's right Chuckie Jo. We can't spend our way out of these structural deficits. What we need are tax cuts. Gann must cut spending and give more money back to students. Her reckless spending, dumb investment strategy, and conservative or not conservative budgeting have destroyed this once great college.

I also oppose Gann's healthcare, environmental, and war policy.

Anonymous said...

"which was why we lost a lot more in our endowment than Pomona did."

That's blatantly false. Pomona's fell more, both as a percentage of their total and an absolute amount.

Anyway, I think you've been sufficiently owned and shut down in this comment thread.

Anonymous said...

"Anyway, I think you've been sufficiently owned and shut down in this comment thread."

I'm afraid Charles is persistently stupid.

Also, "Gann probably tried to turbo charge the investing in order to cover some of the extravagant things that Pam Gann wanted to buy"

wha? I agree with anonymous above -- stick to vitriolic hate posts. Too bad for you people at CMC actually study economics!

Anonymous said...

Charles, no comment? Do you admit you were wrong? Or is all this econtalk flying above your head?

Or are we all leftwing nuts activated by Gann to attack you?

Which one is it? Surely your 150+ IQ can figure this one out.

Charles Johnson said...

When people want to talk ideas, rather than attack me, I'd be obliged to talk. Until then, study, study, study.

Art Tellem said...

As for the IQ stuff, I'm not bragging. It's truth in advertising. You can see my birth certificate, too, if you want.

Lets see it, Charles. What do you have to hide?

Anonymous said...

Lets not make stuff up. CJ's self proclaimed IQ is 143 not 150. And the test wasn't administered by a doctor.

Anonymous said...

"When people want to talk ideas, rather than attack me,"

No one is attacking you for your stupidity. They're attacking your stupidity.