Ilan Wurman CMC '10 and former editor of The Claremont Independent (and sometimes blogger on this site) did an excellent job tonight explaining why The Claremont Independent continues to oppose the existence of and school support for, racially exclusive clubs on campus. The discussion was facilitated by Lauren Ohata CMC '09 and concerned Ilan's article in the last issue of The Claremont Independent in which he cited research by Shana Levin, a CMC psychology professor that looked at how racial groups on campus impede racial harmony on campus.
This isn't a familiar argument to anyone on campus. Indeed, the founder of the BSU (later became OBSA) made such an argument to me in The Claremont Independent. And I wrote as much in the pages of The Claremont Independent where I talked to students about how racial retreats end up promoting some bigotry against white students.
But apparently, this topic still warrants frank discussion and Ilan and the others did not disappoint tonight. I should have the video up later of his opening remarks. I did not film the rest.
This post will be a bit erratic, so please forgive me, but I'm going to be responding to several things that struck my eye.
Groups like OBSA and CLSA are inherently discriminatory. Ilan, after all, is the child of Israelis and yet he is never invited to APAM event. Technically, speaking, Ilan can lay greater claim to being "Asian" than many of the students who are third or fourth generation American of Asian descent. Indeed, given that I spent my formative years in Dorchester's Savin Hill, a.k.a. "Little Saigon," I can make the claim of growing up in a majority Asian neighborhood. My grandfather and (ultra far left) grandfather was an officer that helped resettle Vietnamese refugees at Fort Indiantown Gap and so he is often honored in our neighborhood for his contributions. In high school, I wrote several pieces for the Asian cultural magazine and I dated a few Asian girls. (While we're on the topic and contrary to popular perception, I don't have an Asian fetish. I just so happened to have a few Asian girlfriends. Of course, this kind of slander ought to be called out for what it is -- group racism and discomfort with interracial dating. Fortunately, even The Huffington Post agrees with me!)
Despite all this, neither Ilan, nor I are invited to APAM's retreats, despite both having ties to the Asian continent and to Asians generally.
How can this be? Well, apparently it's because we aren't racially Asian and here is the part that really upset me.
You see, whenever someone applies to Claremont McKenna and checks what their ethnicity is, that information is then turned over to these racially-based groups. For many students, before they are even on campus, they are contacted with an invitation to join one of these affinity groups. That's right, before some people even step foot on campus, they are encouraged to racially segregate themselves.
And despite assurances that they stop trying to get students to join up, Sam Corcos, who co-writes this blog with me, still receives emails from CLSA. (He's part Cuban and a second semester sophomore.)
Now to be fair, some students don't join these groups, but that isn't because they aren't militant. Students are still trying to figure out who they are and are willing to grasp on to whatever it is that will help them understand it. Along comes the Asian/Hispanic/Black groups to tell them to join up before they have even met the rest of the campus. I've seen how it works. Oftentimes they make claims like, "we're the only Asian group on campus, don't you want to celebrate your culture? Here have some candy!" Then before the semester is even really underway, they decide to have an exclusive, minority-only retreat. It leaves little doubt in incoming students' minds that APAM, OBSA, and CLSA can lay claim to being the monopoly or repository of all things, "Asian," "black," or "Latino/a." Many, many students have told me that they feel uncomfortable when approached by these groups in the beginning of the school year and that they feel pressured to join them. Maybe these groups should allow freshmen to form their own identities, to take classes, and to get to know their fellow students before they encourage them to join OBSA, CLSA, or APAM.
Now, Professor Shana Levin is right to argue that those kinds of pressurized situations exist in frat houses and she is probably right. And yet here's the kicker, Claremont McKenna doesn't have frats and it sure isn't UCLA. Its white students are free to join or not join any group and so they mingle and make their own social interactions based upon what they enjoy, not what they look like. It was this point that Ilan made tonight.
Ilan cited one of the authors of the study that shows that minority groups tend to harm academic performance as saying that colleges shouldn't encourage their formation. But currently, they do just that. They often subsidize them with lavish amounts of attention and funding. To be fair, many of the people that defend these subsidies argue that the clubs benefit students academically. But don't we already have the writing center for that? Ilan Wurman is a writing center tutor! Can students only learn from tutors that "look like them"? In that case, I had better avoid learning stats and macro from Indians....
There are no other clubs on campus where the colleges turn over student data for the purposes of recruitment. Can you imagine the outcry that would occur if the school gave out the zip code data to the Claremont Colleges Democrats or Republicans with the hopes that those students' political preferences could be data mined?
Moreover, the mandatory racial sensitivity training that every R.A. must complete before becoming an R.A. is an indication of how these diversity groups don't just stay confined to dealing with student groups, but try to impose themselves on everyone else. As you'll see in the next issue of The Claremont Independent, this often means forcing a radical reinterpretation of school history in the promotion of an ideological agenda.
Which, invariably brings me to my point, I believe that Claremont McKenna should refuse to provide that information to these affinity groups, at least for the first few months of school. As we do with alcohol during dry week, we should have a "cool off" period where we let students settle into campus before they are inundated with calls to join APAM, OBSA, and CLSA. Let OBSA, CLSA, and APAM contend with every group on campus during the activities fairs. Let them recruit all students so that when they go on their retreats, it won't just be the same color faces talking about issues that affect the "community."
One of the leaders of the Cabrones made the claim that he never sees The Claremont Independent at Cabrones parties and to be fair, at least to the members present, few CIers attend Cabrones' parties. I admitted that I just don't dance. But that isn't because we are "self-segregated," it is because we have little in common with groups that like to dance to rap music. It's because we aren't interested in attending them.
The member of Cabrones was trying to use that example to say that we were self-segregating, but here he falls short. The Claremont Independent segregates itself based upon interest, not race. In fact, just to make a point of historical record, it was The Claremont Independent under Ilan Wurman that was the only Claremont publication that wrote a remembrance piece to honor Atul Vyas, their tragically deceased member. The efforts to portray us as some kind of exclusive, white male club are also without evidence. As I pointed out tonight, several of marriages that have formed from serving on The Claremont Independent staff have been interracial. We love participating in the life of this college and often attend events at Pitzer, Pomona, Scripps and CMC together and we've been known to go to left wing events.
But the gentleman very much misunderstands the success of the Cabrones and if he thinks that The Claremont Independent or Ilan is arguing against the Cabrones, he sorely misunderstands Ilan's argument. The reason we celebrate the Cabrones is that they are an affinity based group that doesn't use coercion or the school to advance their interests. No one who wants to attend their parties is hounded down before they come here. The school does not give them any data whatsoever on the percentages of the population that like to drink and listen to rap music. Nor should it give data to OBSA, CLSA, and APAM. If it is true that students really want to join their clubs as they say, then they should have no problem recruiting them the old fashioned way: gauging student interest, not assuming that they'll be interested because of some box they check on their application.
Oh, and while we're at it, I'd love to be invited to any APAM, CLSA, or OBSA retreat or dinner. And as anyone knows after someone once called me "pudgy," I don't discriminate on the basis of food. I love it all.
8 comments:
Charles,
I don't think Huffington Post article you linked to actually says what you think it does but i often suffer from deficient reading comprehension. I disagree with you and not to get personal but it sounds like your feeling a little left out. I can respect the amount of work that you may have done in your community but lets be honest that doesn't make you an "honorary Asian American". Because of the way you look quite frankly you do not have to deal with same issues that most Asian Americans do (the same goes for Ilan of course). Also i question the effect that the "segregation" that these groups actually cause on campus. There's no rule that says APAM members can only hang out with other Asian Americans. Its not like APAM actively prevents you from becoming friends with Asian Americans.
As far as charges of having "Yellow Fever" to be honest I don't know you well enough to say one way or another but to be frank Asian fetishes are disgusting and quite common on the Claremont Colleges. You only have to recall discussions on everyones favorite website Claremont Confessions for confirmation of that.
I have my own disagreements with APAM, although i suspect they are for reasons other than your own, and consequently i'm not a member. I will say this though, during my Freshman year i was never contacted before setting foot on campus. Maybe OBSA or CLSA does this but to my knowledge APAM certainly does not. Furthermore while i was assigned a mentor I never felt that i was pressured to join in anyway, shape or form. I'd like to continue this but i have a shit load of work....Feel free to talk to me.
Hey Daniel,
Thanks for the comment.
That may very well be true that I can never fully know what it's like to be an "Asian American" because of how I look, but I think that's -- and forgive me for using this word -- a very racist way at structuring a club. There could very well be white people on our campus who have more in common with Asian culture, i.e. were raised in Asia, speak an Asian language, grew up in a majority Asian area. It's racist to exclude them from your events because some people might not feel "comfortable." I think you concede as much, but I just wanted to be clear.
As for the charges of "Yellow Fever," I think that it's really presumptuous for anyone to know what is in a human heart. True, some people on an anonymous message board wrote some things that were nasty to Asian women, among other races, but to say that those anonymous comments speak for the whole, is rather preposterous. I know a girl who was approached by APAM who was dating a white guy and said that she felt as if she was encouraged not to. She consequently didn't join the group. While I think APAM is the least offensive of the racial groups on campus, but it's clear that it is far from perfect.
Charles,
I'd like to make a distinction between people from Asia and Asian Americans. I'm fully willing to admit that a white person raised in Japan could have more knowledge about Japan than I do. After all i neither speak nor write Japanese. With that being said that person has little in common with me. I have more in common with someone who is ethnically say, Chinese, who grew up in the United States than I do with that particular person. Hell I may have more in common with you than i would with that person. APAM is for Asian Americans, that is people who are racially East Asian, who grew up in the United States. Its true that i have little connection with Japan but whether I like it or not the way i look has played a part in defining my experience in this country. A white person who has an extreme interest in Asia is simply not going to share my experiences.
I guess we need to talk about our definitions of racism, to me seeing race does not make someone racist. I don't think a white person should be a part of an Asian American affinity group, just like a carpenter shouldn't be a part of an electricians union. No one is saying that a white person is worse than a person of color, they are just saying the are not the same...Because they are not, they have been necessarily treated differently by society due to their race and have fundamentally different experiences. Seeing difference has nothing to do with racism in my opinion but i'm guessing you disagree.
Your right it presumptuous of me to say that the Claremont Colleges as a whole has a problem with "yellow fever". Although to be fair i don't remember any threads entitled "hottest black girl", "hottest latino girl", "hottest white girl". Maybe we should ask our old pal Josh about that. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck...
Hi Charles,
I would like to make some comments and hopefully clarify some of the statements that you made of which you have been clearly misinformed. I should be honest and say that I never agree with your points but I do think the points you attempt to make are weakened by your misinformation or by you misusing the information presented to you.
First things first. I read the interview which highlighted the founder of BSU and nowhere did he say that the BSU later became OBSA. He did not imply this because OBSA has a history completely separate from that of BSU. This is because BSU (Black Student Union) is a student group and OBSA (Office of Black Student Affairs) is an academic office/resource center, staffed with a Dean of Students, Assistant Dean/Academic Advisor, and Program Coordinator, (students can also apply for work study positions in the office). OBSA is part of CUC (Claremont University Consortium). CLSA (Chicano Latino Student Affairs) and AARC (Asian American Resource Centers, run from Pomona) are also academic offices/resource centers for students. the staff of these offices hold the titles o f Deans and Assistant Deans, they attend deans meetings and academic advisory board meetings and a long list of other requirements of a student affairs staff member.
Student Organizations on campus are the Pan African Student Association, Black Student Union, Wanawake Weisui, NSBE, Empowered Latinos in Action, and Student of Color Alliance. This are student founded, student run organizations all with different missions of which you can ask them about yourself.
The Ujima Peer Mentor Program, The CLSA Sponsor Program, and AAMP (Asian American Mentor Program) are run out of the Offices (OBSA, CLSA, AARC) However, this are also chiefly student run but strongly advised and resourced through the offices.
And just for a little more clarification IDBS (Intercollegiate Department of Black Studies) is an interdisciplinary academic department with serving all 5Cs. IDBS often works with OBSA when doing student programming but these are also two different entities.
Now when referring to OBSA as an organization, affinity group, or club, we can see how some of your statements become untrue and invalid. On your arguments, that OBSA and other resource groups exclude some and promote radical agenda is untrue, unless you believe that to support students of color (academically and sometimes socially) who utilize these resources is radical (and some people do believe that). But as these offices are staffed by hired Deans and funded through either CUC (OBSA, CLSA) or Pomona (AARC) I doubt very much that they can truly promote any radical political ideas because they most work with students who hold all different political beliefs and are held accountable to CUC and Pomona. Furthermore, I can speak only to OBSA with this statement, but the only programs that OBSA holds, upon which participation is contentious on racial identification of the student is the New Student Retreat and Black Graduation. All other events such as social lunch, kwanzaa celebration, leadership banquet, etc etc are open to any student who wishes to come (and all the OBSA events that I have attended have had a some non-Black students present)
As far as the colleges giving out information to OBSA, CLSA, and the AARC this is allowed because these are academic offices run by Deans. That is not equivalent to giving out student information to student run political groups or even groups such as PASA, BSU, or ELA. You are correct that OBSA contacts students before they get to campus. They receive letters and information from the office right around the time students also began receiving their new student packets and other information about the campus resource centers such as (Career Development Office, etc). In the letters that OBSA sends out to new students before they arrive to campus they welcome students to the Claremont Colleges, introduce the office and its purpose, detail some of the resources that are available to them, and invite them to the new student retreat. However, participation or utilization of anything that these offices offer is voluntary. Also, regarding emails that students get from the office, yes, you do continue to get emails that tell you about events, workshops, etc that are being offered. However, you can ask to be removed from the listserv and I even know a non-black student who was asked to be added to the listserv. So that being said, OBSA, CLSA, and AARC are not organizations that you are or can be pressured to join and do not encourage students to segregate themselves through early contact as you suggest.
Now as stated already, with OBSA the retreat and Black graduation are closed to students who are not Black (Pan African) but you are more than welcome to attend OBSA sponsored events and as a member of the Pan African Student Association I would also like you to know that our events and meetings are open. However, I am put off by the weak arguments you offer as to why you and Ilan should be invited to retreats or could possibly identify more with being Asian than some others. Those comments read slightly as being underlined with a sense of entitlement.
Now I have worked at the office of Black Student Affairs as a student worker and as head Ujima mentor and as I am older than you (in terms of school year) I would have seen you had you decided to come to an OBSA event or just stop by to get information about the office before you made claims to know about it but maybe you did and I missed it.
Another point that should be made is that the racial sensitivity training (your words not mine) that RAs go through are not based in any work that these offices do. RAs are trained through the residence staff at their given school. For example I am an RA at Pomona and my training is through the Office of Campus Life. The Deans of campus life and others from student affairs work out what should be on the training schedule according to what has gone on the campuses, what RA job requirements are, and becoming a resource for students. That being said in the three weeks of Pomona RA training that I had issues of race were never brought up by anyone from OBSA, CLSA, or the AARC. The only times that representatives of those office were present is when we were discussing campus resources and becoming familiar with things available to our residents.
There are also several other issues with this particular piece that I can find but I think that it would be a waste since so much of your argument is against OBSA, CLSA, and the AARC and clearly you have limited to no understanding of what those acronyms represent. I hope that from now on you base your arguments on this topic from a more accurate understanding and then maybe they will be stronger, have more validity, and receive a better reception.
c. McCray-Pomona College class of 2009
Hi,
You write, "Furthermore, I can speak only to OBSA with this statement, but the only programs that OBSA holds, upon which participation is contentious on racial identification of the student is the New Student Retreat and Black Graduation."
That is exactly the problem that I have identified. And you're right that these aren't student organizations in the sense that they receive school funding -- APAM and I think OBSA receive ASCMC funding -- but that doesn't change the points.
Hi again,
A few quick things.
I slipped up and said resource "group" at one point when I meant and said through out resource center (blame thesis)
OBSA as an office that is run through CUC (the executive offices are that tiny building across from Huntley) is chiefly run on funds alloted through CUC. All purchases for programs and workshops that OBSA holds must be run through CUC which allots a budget for the office just as Pomona College executive offices allots a budget to any other center offering services to students. I feel you are not understanding my point that to compare OBSA, CLSA,and the AARC to any type of student run organization in any way is poor arguing. Becuase these are student affairs offices run by Deans...i.e. Director of OBSA/Dean of Black Students.
So while I understand what you are attempting to say you clearly misunderstand my point that is you still made comparisons between resource centers/academic offices and student groups, claimed that these offices were radicalizing students and calling for students to segregate themselves, and you fail to recognize your error in stating that OBSA is a tangent or was born from BSU.
So while I can see that you do not agree that funding should be given to any group or office that has any events that participation is based on race number one, that is out of your control and my control and number two you still did not address the other points I made.
Also, I think it would be a great idea for you to stop by one of these offices and speak with a dean and maybe even ask questions about why the office or CUC believes it is ok to fund such an office with such programs. OBSA is located on seveth street (the cute little house with the OBSA sign) and is open from 9 to 5 mon-fri. I am not sure when the other offices are open but I am sure the times and locations are available online. I hope you can find time to respectfully check out the offices and have any questions or concerns addressed.
Thanks for the response
C. McCray
Hi Charles,
I attended the dinner, and I raised a question to Ilan that, unfortunately, time prevented him from really answering. In his opening remarks, Ilan claimed that his main issue with these “diversity groups” was the fact that they divided students along purely racial lines. I made the point that diversity exists in many forms, and asked Ilan whether he thought the Queer Resource Center (QRC) was “self-segregating” and unnecessary. QRC receives a majority of its funding from Pomona College – where it is located, as well as contributions from the other colleges (or at least CMC…I am not positive about the rest).
Just interested to here your or Ilan’s thoughts on the matter.
I appreciate your response.
Sincerely,
Lizzie
there is an all white club-- its called convocation.
that being said, asian american communities do nothing to take away from the community. they only add. it is traumatizing to go from a community where you can relate to people of the same culture to a place where everyone else is so different.
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